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Silvia Shadowback · Aug 06, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Could some one please tell me the skills used by an HB monk? Also armour and what kind of weapons?

Couldn't find anything about it but if thread excists could you can someone give me link?

Sarc · Aug 06, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Mo...%27s_Boon_Monk

Should tell you everything you need

glacialphoenix · Aug 06, 2008, 05:40 AM // 05:40

If you mean That HB Bar What Is Perpetually Demanded By Ursans:

Mo/E:
[Healer's Boon][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Dwayna's Kiss][Heal Party][Seed of Life][Healing Seed][Words of Comfort][Rebirth].

The bar Sarc gave you is listed for PvP, and Ursan groups will pitch a fit if you don't have at least one seed - if you're intending to play with them, that is.

TheodenKing · Aug 06, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Just remember... Ursans aren't qualified to make judgments on your build.. they temporarily lose 35 IQ whenever Ursan is on their skillbar.

So, save the build glacial listed so you can ping it when they ask.. but use what you actually think is more effective. For example... in DoA or Olafsted, you will typically find 2 or 3 monks in an Ursan group. No matter what anyone says.. it is NOT effective for 2 or 3 monks to all have healing seed. Because they will inevitably cast on the same target getting spiked, thus one will overwrite the other. It also has a 25 sec recharge, whereas Healing Ribbon has fast recharge and benefits from HB, or Heal Other allows more of a spike heal at great range. Also.. only one monk needs Rebirth.

JDRyder · Aug 06, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

suck

/thread.

dont run HB unless your with ursans, and they are about to be nerfed from what i hear in 2 days :/

but if you must.. blessed armor, 40/20/20 healing staff and a 40/40 set, shield set if you want but seeing how your running HB dont think you'd switch weps that much anyway... and dont take it to AB.

Also to the post from theodenking, hes right but this also goes for every monk bar when theres more than 1 monk. I try to never have any of the same skills as the monk im monking with to keep over casting "using the same skill 2 times on the same target, meaning 1 of the monks just wasted 5-15 energy" as low as i can, saves energy and its more effective.

glacialphoenix · Aug 06, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheodenKing

No matter what anyone says.. it is NOT effective for 2 or 3 monks to all have healing seed. Because they will inevitably cast on the same target getting spiked, thus one will overwrite the other. It also has a 25 sec recharge, whereas Healing Ribbon has fast recharge and benefits from HB, or Heal Other allows more of a spike heal at great range.

Agreed. Feel free to swop out Healing Seed for Healing Ribbon, and always call Seed of Life/Healing Seed when you use it, which helps to mitigate the situation. I believe Ethereal Light is more common than Words of Comfort, but I prefer something that isn't quite so easily interrupted.

And like JDRyder said - it's an ursan build, and ursans are about to be nerfed, so that particular bar may become useless in two days time. Until then, make free with the bar and make free with the mod - as long as it bears a semblance to HB, they won't complain too much. And if they do, hey, you're the monk. The bar I dropped you is just Generic Ursan HB, that's all - it's the most commonly used.

obsidian ectoplasm · Aug 06, 2008, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

. I believe Ethereal Light is more common than Words of Comfort, but I prefer something that isn't quite so easily interrupted.
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if you have HB up and your out of agro you dont get rupted.

faraaz · Aug 06, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Ethereal Light is only good to use when the other monk is running Patient Spirit, which is epic win in my opinion. Words of Comfort is just baed..don't use it. And honestly, Dwayna's Kiss = epic healz in any HM Elite area...I remember seeing it heal for like 800 hp in Slaver's once

Age · Aug 06, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheodenKing

Just remember... Ursans aren't qualified to make judgments on your build.. they temporarily lose 35 IQ whenever Ursan is on their skillbar.

So, save the build glacial listed so you can ping it when they ask.. but use what you actually think is more effective. For example... in DoA or Olafsted, you will typically find 2 or 3 monks in an Ursan group. No matter what anyone says.. it is NOT effective for 2 or 3 monks to all have healing seed. Because they will inevitably cast on the same target getting spiked, thus one will overwrite the other. It also has a 25 sec recharge, whereas Healing Ribbon has fast recharge and benefits from HB, or Heal Other allows more of a spike heal at great range. Also.. only one monk needs Rebirth.

I would only say one is needed if 2 are going in then best replace seed with a condition remover but I would say 1 is all that is need just bring 2 hybrids along.

glacialphoenix · Aug 06, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Faraaz

Words of Comfort is just baed..don't use it.

I find it pretty handy if you're going into a condition-heavy area with ursans, though. Oh well. They're getting nerfed, so I may never have to use that bar again anyway

Markus Soother · Aug 06, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Even if the target is suffering from a condition, patient spirit is the better heal. Not only does it heal for more and have a better recharge and cast time, you can use it to further power up your dwayna's kiss. And if it gets shattered off (fairly common in the ursan group farming areas), better it to get shattered than a seed or a monk's HB, since shattering patient spirit will result in a much smaller HP loss.

glacialphoenix · Aug 06, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Ah, right. Cover enchant. Fair enough. Ah well, like I said, I might be happily tossing That HB Bar aside - I honestly think it's the weakest and most inflexible bar I've ever had to play. Yeah, you can mod it somewhat, but the core of it is the HB/Heal Party, and lots of things can wreck havoc with those two. You already mentioned shattering HB, for one.

IrisLee · Aug 06, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

As JD said, i wouldn't run HB unless you're with an Ursan team.

And as for the main heal slot (As i call it on a HB bar) as lame as it sounds, Orison Of healing isn't bad in pressured areas, as the 2 sec recharge is better than Words of Comfort and Ethereal Light (also not easily interupted) so it's easier to spam with Dwayna's Kiss on pressured targets, and ofcourse on yourself if you're being attacked - which if you're a good monk, you shouldn't...normally, though freak accidents can happen and sometiems Ursans can get lazy and not properly wall.

Just a suggestion though, really WoC, OoH & Eth-Light are all good main slot healers, just depends which you like to use i guess based on your opinions.

Age · Aug 08, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45

It would seem like seed would be ok now or you can use Vig. Spirit in its place.